F.O.H, I always look forward to hearing about your experiences with some of the more "colorful" personalities. As I've mentioned in earlier posts,I'm from the Western Pa area and have relatives that did a fair amount of business, mostly in Mckees Rocks and surrounding area. I go back to when a certain Video Gaming entrepreneur washed dishes at a local 24 hr diner (the actual name was the Del-Kid, but everyone called it greasy Gus's), and remember when my Dad and Uncle got a call from Tony's people telling them not to pay off on the 666 number. I've had occasion to meet and chat with some of the bigger players in the area,but mostly on a "hello,nice to meet you" social basis. Your level of access and the memories you share are fascinating,but I do have a sneaking suspicion that the best stories are the ones that you are too discreet (and respectful) to put out on a public forum.