Moe Greene meeting question
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by Evita
Originally Posted by Lana
“Vito was “straightlaced about sex” and “would consider such cavorting by his son Freddie, two girls at a time, as degeneracy." Vito also knew Sonny had goumars
Vito was “displeased” but did nothing, yet Vito is the family man! Go Figure!!

I think it is fleshed out in the book that he was dismissive of Fredo something like why? Mama can do the cooking when Tom asked should they bring the only son home after Sonny's death and Michael in hiding

I think Vito was an "ethical relativist." Though he was "straightlaced," he recognized that it was in men's nature to philander. That was ok, as long as they remained "good family men." The revealing passage in the novel comes at Connie's wedding, when Vito counsels Johnny Fontaine:

Johnny says he can't marry his first wife again: "Beautiful broads run after me and I never could resist them."
Vito, exasperated, replies, "I didn't tell you to get married again. Do what you want. Who says you can't see [your children] every day? Who says you can't live in the same house? Who says you can't live your live exactly as you want to live it?" [emphasis added.]

I think Fredo banging cocktail waitresses two at a time crossed Vito's "ethical relativist" boundary. His remark about "Mama can cook our meals" meant that he thought Fredo was unmanly--not only because of sexual excess, but probably because he let Moe slap him around and because he was apprenticing as a hotel manager instead of being involved with the family business--possibly even for failing to prevent Vito from being shot and having a nervous breakdown afterward
The more we discuss Vito, the more I am baffled how Vito is fêted as the family man
Vito's only family value was there is no hint Vito had goumars

Wonder what “ethical relativist” Vito would do if non-Sicilian Tom had goumars?

I bet! Vito's ”Who says you can't live your live exactly as you want to live it?" applies to husbands only not wives

Excuse me! Vito It is not in "good family men's" “nature to philander.” nor beat up their wives

I think it is fleshed out in the book Vito stated Carmela did not give Vito any reason for Vito to beat Carmela up Nice!

Vito was instrumental, contributed and caused the misery of every one of his children to their gloom and doom including the violent deaths of Santino, Carlo and Fredo Thanks! Pop