He speaks about them like that because they were tight and Phil knows they fucked up killing guys and he knows if not for all those murders the heat would not of been so bad and all the little shit guys did wouldn’t of been so bad like Chuckie when drinking ... that should of been just a big deal not what it was.

If you are talking about Saul he was pretty popular and would see him at Teddy’s talking with Teddy and Sherry at corner of the bar often. It’s wasn’t like it is now....we had no clue anyone knew about what was what or that any of this would matter .



There was no internet and when shit hit papers it was just normal so we didn’t pay any attention to anyone that we knew...it was just another day on the block.

Yogi was around but around more then most ... it was the 70’s and 80’s and we were doing same shit everyone was doing good and bad and the endless comps we had back then was unbelievable.... Yogi would disappear when he was in the doghouse with Nick or his wife , but the drinking got him out and all the other stuff kept him out .... think you can read between lines.