Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
In terms of longevity Italian OC and Yakuza are head and shoulders above the others.


maybe some chinese triad or tong? i read that all the big triads (14k/sun yee on/wo shing wo) were formed in the 1920s/40s, not sure if there is some older group currently active

Last edited by m2w; 04/10/20 05:04 PM.