there smart and he must have so much respect that people point at there chin or something. massino couldnt even get him trapped on new charges no one must get near him unless i bet he was on your cell block and you put in work or someshit. he makes frank cali look like a no one but same time barney was made in 77 according to fish cafaro. cali was made in 97ish. that guys the real deal. i bet hes super hands off, i cant picture even chin gigante holding making ceromonys in the 80tys fun fact no one ever testified gotti ran there induction. scars said other people did it so did frank fap. was in beneath them 2 bosses you think? i will say sammy the bulls accont of pauls induction was cool as shit i would think. all 3 guys were there