Originally Posted by Hollander
The Violis already got their Vendetta.


And you know this how, exactly? Why haven't Paolo Violi's sons been charged with the killing of Paolo Renda, Agostino Cuntrera, and Nick Rizzuto Sr.?

Why didn't the Violi sons or their Luppino uncles get revenge at an earlier time by killing the Bonanno Family boss who turned down Paolo Violi's request to kill Nick Rizzuto Sr. but gave Nick Sr. the approval to kill Paolo Violi? Do you think that American La Cosa Nostra rules and protocols might have had something to do with the inaction on the part of the Luppino men?

What American LCN rule did Nick Rizzuto Sr. violate, exactly, by having Paolo Violi killed? You do know that Violi disregarded the Bonanno boss's ruling and planned to kill Nick Sr. anyway, right? Do you honestly believe Nick Sr. was in Venezuela for long periods of time in the 1970s till, roughly, the mid-1980s solely because of drug trafficking and not because he didn't fear being killed before and after Violi himself was murdered? You do remember that Nick Sr. moved to Toronto in 1987 and was living in the city at various times till 1988, don't you?

So in 2010, the non-made Domencio Violi and non-made Giuseppe Violi plotted the murders of made members Renda, Cuntrera, and Nick Sr.? Did the Violi brothers pull the trigger too? Wouldn't Sal Montagna, an American LCN acting boss of the Bonanno Family, have had to greenlight those murders, given Nick Sr.'s and Renda's status as made Bonannos? (Agostino might have been a made member of the Caruana-Cuntrera family all along unless he transferred to the Bonanno decina in Montreal.) So the Violi brothers got "revenge" by "ordering" an American LCN acting boss do what he was going to do anyway?

Ah, but you might turn around and say that, in 2010, Domenico and Giuseppe Violi were still 'ndrangheta members who were not answerable to made members of other Italian secret societies. Do you have any evidence of their membership in the 'ndrangheta other than the contentious belief about patrilineal descent conferring membership from father to son?

A true Canadian mobwatcher knows that the rules and protocols observed by the Italian secret societies here are not frequently thrown out the window. You're a Siderno Group member who wants to kill a made member of the Buffalo Family, Gambino Family, Bonanno Family, et al? You had better get permission from the boss of those families. (Paolo Violi was very well versed in the politics of the American LCN; hopefully, after his death, his Luppino brothers-in-law instilled some knowledge in Violi's sons.)

But you might turn around again and say that Paolo Violi's sons' eventual revenge one day was preordained; that Domenico Violi especially, as the older son, had the birthright. Well, wouldn't it then be incumbent on Charlie Renda and Liborio Cuntrera, whose fathers were, you claim, supposedly murdered for actions that were sanctioned by the Bonanno Family in New York, to exact revenge on Paolo Violi's sons?

To whom do Domenico Violi and Giuseppe Violi truly pledge their loyalty now that, like their father before them, they are made members of an American LCN family?

If Paolo Violi had killed Nick Sr. without permission from New York, you and others would be arguing 1) Violi had every right to do so, and b) Nick Sr.'s son Vito would be in the wrong for trying to avenge Nick Sr.'s death.