Thank you for posting this. Very interesting podcast. And they have other good interviews with some other organized crime figures. Just wish they had a longer interview with Arillota, maybe they will. It ended sort of abruptly and is only over half an hour long. They could certainly talk much longer.


I've walked along the red canal of mars
I've known kings and king makers
Poets painters and paupers
I've danced danced on the rings of Saturn
Still your pilgrim soul is the only thing that ever mattered