I am saying I don’t know when exactly but before the First Plus case , or right at beginning but if that was the case I don’t think Skinny would of taken them in.

And I don’t think Nick sr. had enough juice as time went on so the time is a problem.



Now don’t get me wrong it’s always possible that one person got one fact wrong.

But one thing pretty dam sure Skinny would never if signed off on it back then.

So between Skinny and good amount of time before the First Plus case . And it was when NY still had Nick sr. as boss , so obviously it was before they excepted Skinny and Philly as it is .

Now obviously Skinny had to bring them into the fold or be told by NY that they are Philly soldiers.

Then there is always a chance it’s all not true .

But from what I’ve been told over the years it all matches up with what was just posted on Mob Talk , but it looks like AP is / was so fucked up that we may never know.

But my sources were right therein and during the First Plus case so most of it is pretty reliable.

The Stanfa and Ralph thing is just to show how screwed up it had gotten, guys getting made that were not even eligible according to the rules , so who knows who was made and who wasn’t.