I think all of us may have been giving the slip. Through my research, carmine may have officially taken a step back sometime before 2009; in 2009 the judge ordered Allie boy not to have any communications with criminals. So if this is true either an official boss may have been chosen as early as 2009
"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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