Originally Posted by M_Martino
Originally Posted by BronaZora
With the way the LE is in the US, I'm having a hard time believing that this would be internal or American LCN related. This is either coming from Canada or Italy, and seeing how Cali has Sicilian connections and the Gambinos doing business with mobsters from Toronto, Canada seems like a good candidate here. This possibly all goes back to drug trafficking/distribution. I think it's best for American mobsters to get out of the drug game and stick to safer routes like construction and gambling.


I get that LCN isn't as violent as it used to be, but at the end of the day, it is a criminal organization and the guys in the life will put in work if they have to or have something big to gain. With risk comes reward. There's been numerous incidents of violence recently, especially in NY. I think it's a power play move within the Gambinos. Older American Gambinos are behind this, I bet. Zips don't drive pickup trucks.

ZERO chance this is random or a road rage incident.

Originally Posted by M_Martino
Originally Posted by BronaZora
With the way the LE is in the US, I'm having a hard time believing that this would be internal or American LCN related. This is either coming from Canada or Italy, and seeing how Cali has Sicilian connections and the Gambinos doing business with mobsters from Toronto, Canada seems like a good candidate here. This possibly all goes back to drug trafficking/distribution. I think it's best for American mobsters to get out of the drug game and stick to safer routes like construction and gambling.


I get that LCN isn't as violent as it used to be, but at the end of the day, it is a criminal organization and the guys in the life will put in work if they have to or have something big to gain. With risk comes reward. There's been numerous incidents of violence recently, especially in NY. I think it's a power play move within the Gambinos. Older American Gambinos are behind this, I bet. Zips don't drive pickup trucks.

ZERO chance this is random or a road rage incident.


I agree and anyone saying today’s NYC mafia still isn’t violent is really off the mark and hasn’t been paying attention.

Are violent acts down from the 80s / 90s , absolutely but assaults and shootings are occurring somewhat frequently and we have been reading about associates being killed as well and nuermous beefs. It’s still a very violent world with loads of guys going at it hard every day ( loansharking, collecting debts , hard extortions , dealing drugs etc .)

What’s interesting is it seems the violence has tricked up of late and I’m wondering if it’s because the families have regrouped and gotten stronger the last 5-7 years or if rackets are dwindling and guys are really getting after it to make a living