Originally Posted by NickleCity
About the Ndrangheta's power base in Hamilton... a lot of people believed Violi/Luppino Musitano to be Ndrangheta, but they may have been LCN all along--especially Luppino.


It's a lot more complicated than that, people need to realize that the Italian Mafia groups in Canada are much more complex than in the US. Historically speaking, there has only been one legit Italian Mafia body outside of Italy, and that's in the US after the establishment of the commission in the early 30's. Since then you either belonged to a family that was under the the US commission umbrella, or you represented one of the other groups in Italy, being Sicilian LCN, Ndrangheta, Camorra, or whatever.

The families that operate in the US are all under the American commission banner. In Canada however you have a mix, some groups report to the American commission, while other groups report to Italy. Some groups play both sides whenever it's convenient for them. Take the Rizzutos for example, when they were under the Bonnano banner, some have argued that they were a lot more closer to the Sicilian mobsters than to the Americans, and eventually they became powerful enough to break away due to that influence. On the other hand the Ndrangheta families in Toronto are all independent from the US commission, because they answer to Italy, not US, though there seems to be a significant shift for some of the families to move their main leadership to Toronto rather than Italy due to more lenient laws.

Hamilton is rather an interesting place, because although the main Mob families there have Ndrangheta roots, I'm not sure how much connect they have back to Italy. We know for sure they have cousins that still operate back in Italy, but we're not sure if there still is a connection. Giacomo Luppino himself was a Ndrangheta boss back in Italy until moving his family to Hamilton. But unlike the families of Toronto, the ones in Hamilton kind of embraced the American Mob rather than Italian, even though Luppino was also involved in Ndrangheta affairs in Canada.

It's still kind of unclear, if we take the Musitanos for example, like the Luppinos they also have Ndrangheta roots, but unlike them they don't really have members made into the Buffalo family, so what do you consider them? American LCN or Italian? Clearly they're respected enough in the underworld to be considered as a family, but it's an example of how things are much more complex in Canada.

Last edited by BronaZora; 02/02/19 01:29 PM.