final answer alex. it was when lucky luciano was boss. and technically it wasnt the genovese family yet. so if the genovese family starts after frank costello steps down as boss after chin shot him. or was lucky luciano still the boss and frank costello the acting boss for lucky. anyway genovese becomes official boss sometime in 1957 then goes to prison in late 1959 and dies in prison 1969( he must have been close to parole). so genovese height was the apalachin meeting and the year 1958 then it went real bad. sick in bed got a bad cold boring friday no party till patriots curb stomp the charges sunday afternoon. philip rivers cant play when it 20degree out

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