Originally Posted by Moscone65
Its very possible that Cicero is calling the shots, (although with Vena and all that, Grand ave could be competing). I just highly doubt that Elmwood park is done as a crew. Sure, its a more mixed neighborhood now, but i have a couple of buddies that are italians that live there, and its an old school neighborhood from what i understand, relatively safe compared to other parts of older chicago. Neighboring Melrose park still has alot of italians and italian businesses too.


Yeah they just mean from a mob crew perspective. The north side crew was absorbed into Grand Ave. at some point. According to the conventional wisdom at ANP the Elmwood Park was shuttered.

The Outfit now consists of Cicero calling the shots with Grand Ave. and Chinatown still active.

There are some problems with that theory, such as that Grand Ave is primarily populated by yuppies and Bridgeport is probably less than 30% white these days, but they just mean the ways the crews are organized.

As an Irishman I don’t know and will never know for sure!