There are guys on here who have. My first encounter was really young, later especially my teen years, I met many from from out of state.

2a I will humor you on a pair.
1. At a family wake.
2. The uncle was arrested three years before in connections with a crime family. The nephew at the wake.
3. The uncle said he was "retiring", and putting his nephew up to the "vote".

Wasn't in Califonia by the way, and his own son was pissed. The son was never made.