His lawyer Eric Deen remembers: He came to my office after that shelling. He really had no idea who it was. However, the name of Holleeder and an amount of one million were mentioned. Remember that Holleeder was not as in the picture as later. But I think that extortion and Holleeder have been rejected. And Jocic, I also heard that name. There would have been some sort of disagreement, but I do not know details.