Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Is "Dikke Peter" a traveller as well?
I always assumed he was just a local Limburg guy who made it big in the underworld. Nevertheless, the guy really isn't one to be crossed.

Even though "kampers" play a very prominent role, traditional OC in the Netherlands isn't really limited to them. There's lots of Dutch from the settled community involved in organized crime as well. I'd wager to say that next to the UK (England and Scotland) and Ireland, the Netherlands is one of the rare northwestern European countries that breeds a ton of indigenous outfits that are involved in the underworld on a large international scale.


I wonder why that is so . After all one can point to the ( still lasting ) marginalization of certain segments of the British Isle's indigenous lower/working class as a main factor for the existence of so many indigenous British organized crime groups , however I'm not aware of a similar phenomenon with respect to the settled Dutch lower/working class .

If anything the Netherlands was always ( and I imagine still is ) a more tolerant/less socially stratified society than the UK , which makes the large amount of settled Dutch gangsters seem a bit puzzling to me .

I suppose one can bring up the fact of the Netherlands being an important smuggling center though ...


Last edited by 2a; 06/20/18 03:35 PM.