Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Something guys like Michael Moore don't seem to understand is that the very people who've had values such as respecting the flag, and respecting their country, instilled in them at a young age are the very ones to want to serve their country; they aren't coerced into doing it, it's a career path they have chosen.


What a fairy tale.

Since you bring up Michael Moore, watch the part of Fahrenheit 9/11 where military recruiters at a mall in a predominantly black area admit to targeting young black men for enlistment, since statistically they are the poorest demographic, and are most likely to be lured by the military's financial benefits.

This was one of many desperate recruitment tactics by Donald Rumsfeld's military. The enlistment numbers were embarrassing for a time of war, following the biggest attack on American soil in history. For all of the post 9/11, fever-pitched displays of patriotism, nobody wanted to actually go and fight in the war. Americans wanted a war, but didn't want themselves or their children to die in it.

On Rumsfeld's watch, the military was so desperate to bring up enlistment numbers they also laxed standards such as rules forbidding convicted felons from enlisting. Reports of gang activity on military bases began to surface. Gang activity...on military bases. Let it sink in.

I think FUBAR is the term we're looking for.

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And it's rich for guys like Moore, and Springsteen, and people of their ilk, to contribute to this subject because they invent psychiatric illnesses to get out of serving their country. So pipe down.


You want to talk about rich people using deferments to get out of war?

What was your buddy Donald Trump doing during the Vietnam war?

How about Dick Cheney? How many deferments did he have?

George W. Bush had his daddy get him a cozy assignment that never required him to leave the country.


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