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Yea that was my point though. It’s become political. Each side has an agenda. But I know politics and I know gangs.

As for these more brutal crimes committed and wether the gang as a whole condones it, it’s hard to say unless we did a real poll nation wide on the members. Generally I see east coast chapters of west coast gangs as wannabes that have a whole other way of gang banging. If MS 13 members murdered little girls in LA or California they would be stabbed inside La county jail right away or forced to PC. That’s a big no no here, but MS 13 on the east coast is something else it sounds like.

One article says they’re in an alliance with the Mexican Mafia, but the general public probably thinks it’s an alliance like they’re equals when reading it. When in reality MS 13 has to pay Mexican Mafia so they don’t get stabbed in jail.
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Precisely SoCalGangs and unlike everyone else you been in their neighborhood where they got started. I met one from Houston area, regular tejano not some remorseless killer. Again individuals and individual cliques do ruthless acts but as whole just a regular American street gang.