Originally Posted by The_Rooster
The answer is they arent defunct yet....

As far as Giacomo lying 1) you think everyone is lying 2) he might be lying but he sure does pluck a lot of info out of magic hat, some I can corroborate, and no its not some big collusion between him and I...that stabbing I heard about, it was in 2013 and he didnt even get any money out of the guy, who is supposedly protected by another member and had threatened revenge many times but did nothing.


Giacomo is a proven liar. He lied about hits committed by Tony Mirra, and admitted to it. Why did he lie? Who knows. That's one of many little tidbits of false knowledge which he pulls out of his magic hat.