Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
Originally Posted by The_Rooster
The same guys too? what does that even mean? There was Peter Capitano, then there is Peter Jr. and Sam his sons. You can start working at age 14 or younger in New York


Ok then. Joe Todaro Jr., the underboss/acting boss of the Todaro crime family (a term which had been in use no later than 1989, Rooster), was a confidant to a kid in high school (or possibly a high school dropout). This kid, Sam, was also a member of the Pizza Gang, possibly in between ditching classes. But, even stronger than this teenage gang member, was a kid a couple of years older. This kid, Sam's brother Peter, was a "strong associate" of Todaro Jr. and Victor Sansanese and actually came from the Pizza Gang before being placed into a leadership role in the Laborers union in his late teens/early 20s. So how long was he in the Pizza Gang for? Did he start when he was 14, run with the Pizza Gang for 5 years, then was a union leader by 19? Who knows.

If this is really, truly the case, then that pretty much clears up any confusion I have about the family possibly still being alive. If, when the family was going strong, the underboss/acting boss was relying on teenagers to carry out his business, it's a wonder the family didn't die sooner.


Peter joined the union in ‘83 as he was about to turn 18. He was a confident of Todaro along with his brother Sam because their Dad was a made man—even though the government could only prove he was an associate. Todaro was grooming them for leadership. The Washington Post article talks about the leadership/advisory position Sam (the younger one) was in before both brothers were suspended and then banned from holding a leadership position for 5 years for leading the dissidents and getting in a fight with Gabe from Rochester who was serving serving as the federal trustee and placed there by Luskin.—Try reading the whole article instead of just skimming for items to prove your point. Sam and Peter fought the federal takeover after their Dad was removed from leadership-because they had been groomed by the Todaros to do so. Not rocket science here!

Last edited by NickleCity; 03/31/18 01:01 AM.