Originally Posted by BensonHURST
So what is the debate?

Everyone agrees that the Buffalo family is active today because they just got indicted last month.

So they have to be active.


The debate is do they have a formal structure or is it just the guys that are left from back in day operating independent?

The only ways to know that:

1) Someone flips and lays out the structure.
2) It's mentions it in the actual inducement.
3) They go to trial and everything comes out.
4) Someone locally in the know posts on here.

Everyone can have different opinions which is what is happening here I don't think one opinion is better than the other.




I suppose we have different definitions of the family being "active." In my opinion, one or two made members operating independently or under the wing of another family does not constitute a family being "active." A family being active means the family is active, as in the organization. A made member is a made member for life, and if that member continues running his shy book 25 years after the organization he belonged to is gone, then that is not "active" in my humble opinion.

Also, the inherent problem with people that are "locally in the know" posting on a forum is that we have no way of knowing whether they are really "in the know," or whether they are making up information just for fun, as has been the case in the past with certain users.

If Rooster is proven right, I will definitely apologize. I do not know for certain that he is wrong. But logical thought indicates he's wrong.