Originally Posted by thebigfella
Your making the accusations nickyfromtampa, the burden of proof is on you...what do you base your evidence in? I say Kansas city is still active, thier like Detroit alot of people in that outfit is related so it might gives the appearance that thier in active


The FBI has declared (as reported by Niagara Falls reporter Mike Hudson) that the family is dead. The city's Mafia squad was scrapped a long time ago. http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/Stories/2013/Jan8/TodaroNicoletti.html
(There are other articles which back this up: Hudson is a dedicated Buffalo mafia researcher who did an obituary every time a high-ranking guy died, e.g. Joe Todaro).
By 1998, the Buffalo mob was "withering" as confirmed by the feds and the Buffalo News, reeling from federal convictions. http://buffalonews.com/1998/01/31/t...ned-values-and-falling-behind-the-times/
The family's last bust was in 2002, of Sonny Nicoletti Jr. Frank BiFulco was convicted in 2003 of arson as well.

Here is a well-researched article by the Buffalo News which backs this up quite nicely:
http://buffalonews.com/1998/01/31/t...ned-values-and-falling-behind-the-times/


I understand the concept of "burden of proof," but I think that if someone is going to accuse people of being delusional for not accepting a mob family exists, they need to back that up. Especially since there is not any real evidence to back up that there is a structure/hierarchy/chain of command. No, the 2017 bust is not proof that the family has a structure/hierarchy/chain of command. All the feds and RCMP stated was that there were members of the Todaro crime family arrested in Canada. Not the United States. Since the Canadian wing of the family was declared cut-off from the U.S. mob following the 1997 assassination of John 'Johnny Pops' Papaglia, I assume that whatever capos/soldiers were left there joined the arms of the (far more powerful) Canadian mafia families in Ontario, Hamilton & elsewhere. That has been seen with other mobsters, like the Violi brothers who were arrested in 2017 in a fentanyl bust. Their grandfather was a powerful Hamilton-based Buffalo mobster Giacomo Luppino, but the RCMP has confirmed that the brothers worked with the Hamilton 'ndrangheta.

If you have any evidence which proves me wrong, Rooster, I'd be happy to hear it.