I give it to michael he probably was the first one in on the gas scam what did it start in 1980ish. With some russian who knew the whole racket ins an outs. I think a rival russian went to christy tics 19th hole and got put under him. But michael had control of that scam and big paul who probaly was the boss with the most members wasnt getting a taste of it. Does anyone remeber big paul or sammy the bull talking about it. Demeo was still alive chopping people up and they really started the concrete club around 1980 rite. I just seen a mike franzese interview on worldstarhiphop. He'll talk to anyone with a show.