Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Some of the wealthiest old Italian men my father and grandfather knew lived very modest, if not for there wife's these men would have lived even more modest.

I I mean tan khakis and a white tee shirts stained from whatever they enjoyed weather making wine or doing little projects .

Some did not drive or own a car of there own , of course the children were driving some very nice vehicles.


I wonder why they didn't live it up?