Mikey, again ill say it, I dont doubt your story nor did at any time i say i did,I doubt your identification of pung because as i stated, chick has paper and johnny is pretty diligent about keeping his dad out of positions that can hurt him. And i doubted joey was the one who gave u the finger, which u confirmed it... and I get why, but I just don't think the feds watching guys in their 80s or approaching their 80s hang on the corner is good use of tax money in this day and age...what I'm saying is they aren't gonna see chick start a crap game on passyunk...i disagree with some of the people positioning on the chart, johnny, chick and Phil but that's just my opinion on it nothing more nothing less...