Not doubting the whole stogie joes story..but am doubting the pung identification , doubt he was there...for a few reasons..number ONE chick has paper, it Johnny kind of keeps a close eye so chick don't get put in bad positions with it...and also doubting joey Chang gave u the finger , u probably mean Johnny...dummies out in a public..? Like are they suppose to stay in, like vampires or something, confused by that part of your statement ..almost as confused at the Feds watching the people u named, but whatever...