Visiting day in Otisville FCI was an eye opener for me. 80 hacidic men would receive their visitors 5 days a week. Some of them would have 8,9 - 11 kids. They explained to me how their marriages weren't legal and the mothers could claim single parent status as a result... It's no secret among them. They have no shame about it either. Justifying it by claiming if they didn't take it, all the schvartzas would.