Ohhhhhhh OK if that's what I meant, I am so so sooo very sorry to offend you sir !! If you go back the last 20 plus years and do a lil reading and research it is very clear to see that Joe is constantly with Crea !! Especially the 2000-2001 indictment,Joe regularly reports directly to CreA ,And rightfully so since Datello and his extended family hold many key positions in a number of unions and ownership/Ties to many large and small businesses