Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
OK from what I understand, the Ukraine was vulnerable to Russian aggression because they never joined NATO. That is the main issue. Everything else is secondary. The Ukraine not joining NATO is how they were played, not Obama. Maybe you feel Obama was played because he and the US Govt. were behind the intrigue going on with the controversial Ukrainian election that led up to actual combat. You would be incorrect on that note also because whether or not there was an American plot to install a puppet in the Ukraine...Obama probably had little to nothing to do with it.


Viktor Yanukovych and Ukraine did not want to join Nato because they wanted to be neutral in a power struggle between the US and Russia. When he decided to get closer ties with Russia there was protests these people were armed militants who overthrew a democratically elected government the US and EU but hey Russia are evil and the US are good people right?

The people of Crimea voted democratically to join Russia but once again western media ignored it is US prograde. Everyone just made it look like they forced the people to live under Russian control look at this article US and the EU are the cause of the civil war

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict

Now look at the undemocratic dictorship corrupt government that the US backs today nothing just changed ask any Ukrainen he will tell you that nothing has changed country just as corrupt as before instead now they have people being killed

Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo

OK no, just no. The reason Obama didn't make a strong show in Syria after drawing a red line in the sand was because of opposition back home. Obama was wise enough to see that even if a US president can, by American law, launch military attacks in the interest of American national security for limited periods of time, that time runs out and Congress must then deal with the aftermath. He was wise to go to Congress and request backing. He didn't get the backing. It was the US Congress that backed away from Assad and allowed Putin to move troops in. That's really all there is to it. The Republicans in Congress wouldn't back Obama, not even in war, not even in a war that was supposedly in America's self interest. So they allowed Putin and Assad to unite and strut.


No your right Obama showed little strength instead he supported groups who are connected or surrendered to AL Qaeda militants who claimed to be Syrian freedom fighters it does not matter his whole policy in Syria has been a disaster Saudia Arabia and Qater who are part of this US formed "Coalition" just do there own thing and support whoever they want I don't like Assad or Russia but sometimes it is better to stick with the devil you know. Obama US helped and encouraged the revolution against Assad you guys instigated it just as much blood on your hands as Russia. Whole Syrian war is a power play by the US and Russia and Obama has lost Assad is winning and in the next year so this whole war 250,000 people killed was for what so the US could try and establish its own puppet government

don't believe me look at these articles they show the failure of obamas policy in Syria
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/19/us-weapons-to-syria-repeats-historical-mistake
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...o-al-Qaeda.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33997408


Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Where have you been? Are you not aware that Russian scientists are on the ground on-site in Iran helping them with their nuclear technology? Iran is considered a terrorist sponsor. If Russia is sponsoring Iran, then what does that make Russia?


Have you seen the nuclear deal? Russia are supposed to be helping them it was part of the deal Obama signed the UN know and approve there actions. China are also supposed to be helping interesting you dident mention them

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whats-in-the-iran-nuclear-deal/

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patr...lear-facilities


I find it very hypocritical that you seem to think Russia are any better than the US what about Libya you guys under obama fucked up that country by backing that coup not there is 8 different governments including ISIS operating there. Major refugee crisis coming through there into Italy. Egypt elect people you don't like so Obama and the US back and organize a coup so now the country has military control. The US is the most hypocritical country in the world at least Russia we all know they are bullies and the cause of a lot of a lot of death the US pretends they are not like that.

Why are you not critizing China aswell? they are a country that kills millions of its own people and others in Asia undermines democratic countries like South Korea and independent states like Hong Kong they make Russia look like saints


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion