Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Disclaimer: I'm not saying I believe this unequivocally, but.........

Man, y'all are REALLY US Cosa Nostra -centric.
@Mighty

I can't lie, I thought it was kinda funny you assumed the Gambinos would have the European skin trade, and would divide it up amongst those guys. Why would you not assume the Russians control the prostitution as they supply the girls?


It never occurs to y'all that the RUSSIANS, and Italian crime groups would be splitting the prostitution rackets? ( Albanian clans "sell" girls to crime groups, the Licciardis from Naples got their,girls like this)

That the Gambinos would or could be into a coke for heroin, or drugs for guns operation? Maybe they get the guns from Russian operatives?

My point is you guys have a tendency to wanna make everything revolve around the Five families. This is a GLOBAL thing, like the dark mirror version of like a CFR or Bilderberg meeting basically.

I don't know why it's so hard to accept that the Gambinos were an integral part of the international narcotics machinery, and clearly as evidenced by the Ursino thing, are actively trying to reestablish this position. Also, NY historically was very important to Palermo, and the Gambinos basically ARE the NY/Palermo faction of the Sicilians, am I wrong about this????

@ Furio

Cartels don't stay anywhere really. They follow the market, not a territory. This is why you see the Mexicans everywhere from America to Australia. It's why the Calabrians are on top, specifically cause they are embedded EVERYWHERE. It's why they overtook the Sicilians, who focused only on heroin and NY, whereas they focused on coke and ALL POINTS IN BETWEEN.



I mean, of course there is no Yakuza in France. But a Yakuza might go through a French gangster for heroin. The French gangster might be connected to an Italian, who's connected to the Colombian coke barons. The Colombian guerillas need guns, they might need a connect to the Russians. Yakuza and Triads have ALL KINDS OF GAMBLING AND CORPORATE CONNECTIONS. They could launder everyone's shit.



This globalization was a huge point in the Sixth family, come on y'all.

You had Vito a Sicilian, working with Calabrians, Bikers, Black gangsters, Asian heroin suppliers, Irish hash suppliers, Lebanese gangsters, South American gangsters, Cubans, he's in the Dominican Republic, he's was, fuck, everywhere lol....

I think this one warrants further discussion..


CabriniGreen I am not focused only on the 5 families but I know some thing:

1) the Gambinos have ties with the Sicily all right but thats it and the French connection times are over;
2) yes the Cartels go where are the money and the money stay in Spain,the mexicans made deals with all the oc groups that had their men in spain that buy the drugs and transport to home;
3)Russians and Albanians are different things, the first are even white collar while the second are most on prostitution and drug trafficking;
4)Yakuza buy tge drug in the golden triangle and sell it in Australia, west coast ecc the Chinatown are most present and do the triads;
5) any of this oc groups made money in different ways and dont need to meet also because they dont trust each others.

This big meeting are a movie stuff not real life.