Nah, I know full well MrJustSayNo has no credibility. First he says he knows things by fact, is in the neighborhood, yet when is confronted on it, backs away from that claim and says he doesn't know anything, just knows what he reads in newspapers and books. Which is why I tongue in cheek asked if he had any sources for his info.

Helen has always been good on this forum, so I don't know what issue Yates has with her, or anyone else. But the fact that Yates is actually buying into what JustSayNo says, is quite surprising.