Originally Posted By: dinocrocetti
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
From what I understood after the apalachin meeting the commission splitted in two: a commission headed by the 5 families that rules on the east coast and an another led by the Chicago Outfit that rule on the west coast.

Ivy say that NY forbade Pittsburgh from making any new members after a certain point and Cleveland had to get permission to make new guys (for what reason did it ?) ; it's ok but I asked if even philly must send the names to all the 5 families or only to a family like the genoveses for example ?


same question different forum, eh? the same exact reason no new members were made in Milwaukee, San Francisco, San Jose, Los Angeles, Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, KC, Rochester etc. all these mid size to smaller families did not make new members because there weren't as many italians in that geographic area after a certain point. NYC, Chicago and New England were much larger populated areas of italians. there were no more italians migrating to the USA in droves anymore. what dont you get about it foorio? you ask the same question repetitively on every site


Dino is Furio not Foorio and I think that should look to every crime family story for understand why it become defunct.
The east coast still had more italians but out NY there are in Cleveland,Pittsburgh ecc more criminals with italian surnames; in some cases after 1989 the families bosses refused to made new members and the family died in other cases the criminals dont need to be made for made money.
Look to the Detroit case,less recruitment pool but the family is still viable.