Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
San Jose, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Tampa are good examples. Milwaukee is with Chicago, same with Rockford, they were independent, now they are with Chicago. 9 families? I still count Buffalo and Detroit with them to bring a total of 11. In a decade or two, we will most likely hear about a resurrection of the defunct and dying families. Who is to say it won't happen?


Doesn't make much sense to just pick whatever families you want or you get what we've seen before where people on the boards are insisting Kansas City, St Louis, Milwaukee, San Francisco and others are still around. Best to go with who would know - the feds. There's some discrepancy on Detroit, so that's arguable, but there's no basis for still including Buffalo in the list.

Those families you listed above as being "with Chicago" aren't around anymore. Besides, the Outfit has little presence outside Chicago and its suburbs now anyway. And we won't see any of these defunct families "resurrect." The closest thing to that was the New Orleans family in the early-mid 1990s or the Tampa family a little later in the decade. But both involved remnants of those families basically teaming up with one or more NY families.


having a pissing much with a skunk is not needed ivy. and youre talking with a skunk. i wouldn't have even dignified his statement,