I'm not debating,Just posting ! I've read a lot of reports,cases,etc and I came across a number of people in there late 20s to mid 30s on a consistent basis ! Sons,nephews,grandsons,basic relatives of members who are consistent ! Arrest records state otherwise,along with case & court files & documents In KC area, PPP arts of Missouri outside the city and also involving members living and operating in Nevada over the last 10-12 yrs