hi moe, it was a big upset, however in the popular vote Hillary is ahead by 1.8 million votes, and they are still counting. as to your assertion about draft dodgers, think again, 3 out of the last 4 elected presidents have been in that category, bill clinton, George bush jr, and now Donald trump, it matters not anymore. I don't think Obama served either.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"