I have no clue how other then that Timmy is a union guy but he don't live in the city and never has , but still in all a good dude and his wife is a sweetheart.

The neighborhood has no Caucasians have no clue who's hanging there these days we only used it for a quick beer and the payphone back in the day.

Yes Joe could not get it going and was not one of the guys , but he was well liked in Philly but just a bar keep down here .

I guess it was due to him coming in late in the game that he was not a factor but has proven to be a stand up guy.