Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
The Detroit discussion never ends LOL


Hahah Billy i was thinking the exact same thing.. Im waitin on ivy to chime in and say theyre basically defunct and everyone to commence arguing.. It's well known where I stand.. I feel they're incredibly secretive and have a solid fam operating in that american version or baghdad ripe with corruption and the fact that they are basically all related is why they still have had very few rats and had long time bosses with no coups


I've said it a million times and the evidence speaks for itself. And while the close family relations may explain lack of cases to a point, it doesn't completely do so. Nor does it justify the image some on the forums still hold, though not as many as 5 or 10 years ago, of a large, overly hierarchical, very active family. I've said that it's debatable about the family so people are free to still consider it as among those still viable. But even they have to recognize the true current state of what's left of the mob there and not some fantasy.


No one is saying it's a large family. It is certainly a small family, but it seems to be very active and very wealthy also. To say it's almost defunct seems more like a fantasy than anything else. The lack of cases doesn't mean the family isn't active. How many westside guys never get indicted? Some of those guys have a ton of guys under them. They're not active? We also need to remember the state of the FBI these days. This isn't exactly their top priority.