Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
As a libertarian I am not willing to sacrifice my liberty just to sleep better knowing 75 year old italian men are locked up and not pilfering ball cream.


Like I said, you can't make a judgement on resources based on just the latest case. And you keep pointing to one charge in the case which includes many more. If you look at the big picture and trends in recent years, the mob is not as benign as you make it out to be.


Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
the fbi has droped the ball a few times on muslim shooters,

the san bernadino shooter was known to them, the Orlando shooter had been interviewed by them. and there are more that should of been investigated,

but by getting headlines busting old bookies,and connected guys, people think they are doing great things......

they are not. they need to step up on the really dangerous
threats that we are vulnerable to. or the shootings will continue,


How much reading have you actually done on this subject? The FBI's top priority is terrorism and has been ever since 9/11. Since that time, the amount of resources devoted to the mob has gone down significantly. Back in the 1980's and 1990's, they had 300 agents investigating the NY families. Today it's about 10% of that. Blame them all you want for dropping the ball on lone wolf shooters but it's got nothing to do with how much resources they have going towards LCN.

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Sonny @pmac @ Ivey


I think we have to look at this thing big picture wise, I try to take a birds eye view in all this shit to connect the dots...

Like Ivey said, they cut the FBI resources, so the stuff they do handle, they got to get the most out of it that they can. Now this means both, investigations that yield "prosecutable crimes",as well as political capital. Big drug rings, operations like this one where they can link multiple families, no matter how thin the connections, it's headlines, it's part of the game...

Look at how STRATEGIC these arrest were, they hit the biggest families in NY, plus they get the cast iron young mob boss poster child in Merlino. They even called it the " East Coast Cosa Nostra Enterprise", I don't know why they didn't just call it Commision Case 2 lol.

I think Pmac is on to something with these gambling arrest. They seem more aimed at sending the mob a message than anything. I was going to start a thread asking the question, " Does the mob handle fantasy sports betting?" "How does this action affect regular betting? Is it complimentary to the regular mob clientele, or is there overlap and competition there? There's a pool in like a LOT of offices, type of young, college educated guys with money to burn and a taste for the action. Basically the " New" bettor. Watch it become more tech driven too, it's too young and sexy not to.Like ANYONE CAN BET FANTASY SPORTS, it reminds me of the Junior Soprano line, " Fuckin ch*nks and housewives are betting football..." What happens when BIGMONEY starts to move in like with weed? I wanted to do another thread asking if a gambling machine was better than a sports book. While back, article in the SunTimes said the state took in 913 million from video poker machines last year, revenue starting to compete with the ten casinos here.

I would pay attention to this trend of coming down hard on gambling rings in the future.. Bet you money it starts to coincide with more legalization legislation, but hey, I'm a suspicious person, lol any more thoughts fellas?


Nothing is a bigger money maker for the mob than sports betting. There are still numbers, card/casino games, and video poker machines but all of them combined bring in only a fraction of the money bookmaking does.

I have yet to see a mob case that involved fantasy sports betting. On one hand, considering how quick LCN has always been to go where there's an opportunity to make money, it wouldn't surprise me if we soon did. On the other hand, while I haven't seen any comparative stats, I'm willing to bet regular sports betting still dwarfs fantasy sports. The latter is a strange niche that is already run by technically legit companies operating legally or at worst a grey area. It's not the same kind of illegal market the mob can exploit.


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