Originally Posted By: getthesenets


Straw man arguments about what liberal media or Blacks are saying about cops and the klan have no bearing on this discussion because nobody can "prove" what is in anybody's heart or mind. Fact remains that in a lot of these cases, cops are not following the guidelines that they were trained under.Overly aggressive,, speaking to citizens in disrespectful manner, reckless use of violence/force on suspect,falsifying or not filling out police reports after incidents. Basically not being professional when doing their jobs. It's like when dealing with Black men, some cops throw their training out of the window and it becomes about macho posturing.



Most of what you wrote is correct, but one point I would disagree with you is this: sometimes the policy itself is wrong. As an example let's look at the Eric Garner case.

Garner was illegally selling cigarettes and a local business owner called the police and the police came. Then when confronted he became resistive. What did the police do? He was brought to the ground, face down. One of the officers put his leg on Garner's back and applied pressure while putting him in a chokehold. This was all monitored by a Black female police sergeant. This indicates that this NYPD standard procedure.

There were three things wrong with what the police did. First, Garner was clearly obese. When restraining obese people they must be placed on the ground face up or against a wall. This is to ensure their ability to breathe is not compromised. When they put him on the ground face down they diminished his ability to breathe. The second thing was when the officer put his leg on Garner's back and applied pressure, further diminishing his ability to breathe. The third thing was the chokehold itself. There are two types of chokeholds: one cuts off breathing and cuts off the airway, the other applies pressure to the carotid artery. Of the two, cutting of the blood supply of the carotid artery is safer, yet the NYPD uses the other.

Because the police followed policy -- despite causing Garner's death -- none were convicted of a crime. Moreover, the way the Grand Jury was conducted was strange. Only the officer who physically interacted with Garner faced trial while his supervisor and the other officers were given immunity to testify against him. To say the least, something was wrong with that scenario. But the point is, following a bad policy that allows people to be killed when they shouldn't be is what protected the officers from being sent to prison. No one paid the price for a death that shouldn't have happened.