Originally Posted By: BronaZora
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: BronaZora
This is a huge hit for sure, what's happening up in Canada begs for a movie or a TV show, it's pretty crazy. Anyways, assuming that the hit came from a group other than the Arcadi crew, then it's safe to assume that the Montreal Mob is no longer a single family, but rather split families/crews gunning for the port, and I don't see them co-existing peacefully anytime soon like the 5 families of NY for example.

This is also a testimony that Vito Rizzuto must be one of the best bosses of all time to be able to hold all these crews together operating as a single independent family. He was probably the only figure that kept the Montreal Mob powerful and competitive with the the Siderno group, with his passing the 'Ndrangheta hold the power in Canada easily.

Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
I don't know anything about what's going on up there being I'm from jersey but these guys are the real deal. They make American CN look like the minor leagues. They talk less and shoot more. Crazy. This shit would never go down out here in this day and age. I don't condone it but you gotta give these guys their respect. They live the life to the fullest extent. No half stepping.


These guys might be old school and all, but with such death rate this can't be good for business.



Of course they do, but this was beginning to happen even while Vito was alive. And it remains to be seen if they truly control Montreal to the point where they're using the Montreal Mafia, and Montreals other crime orgs like literal puppets for their sole benefit.


I don't think this was happening before Vito went to jail, there was no question who controlled Montreal back then, it was the Rizzutos, things began to crumble when Vito went jail, there was no charismatic leader left to keep it all together, so it fell apart.

The 'Ndranghea does not have to come control any puppets in Montreal to be the power, the lack of stability over there is in itself an advantage for them, though I have no doubt they will probably try to bud in and install a puppet boss that will benefit them.


I didn't say before Vito went to jail, I said while Vito was still alive. It began as soon as he was extradited. Sal Montagna was making inroads to the Toronto clans and those in Hamilton, he was basically recruiting help, I think Desjardins was doing the same. When Vito got out of prison, the 'Ndrangheta was arguably the most powerful crime group in Canada. The fact that it didn't take this long to accomplish this goal, lends credence to the thought that this was already beginning to happen before Vito went to prison. Its said by some that the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario basically forced Vito to act and get rid of Panepinto after he murdered two 'Ndranghesti. I don't know how true that is, but its said in The Sixth Family. If it is true, then obviously the 'Ndrangheta were beginning to grow in stature and match that of the Montreal Mob. And they always had links to the Gambinos and other families in NY, this didn't just happen after Vito went away, the 'Ndrangheta were creating alliances with the families across the way since like the Seventies, maybe earlierw, which aided their power. They were already the most powerful group in the Toronto area since then.

And its argued that Montagna was already that puppet boss of the 'Ndrangheta, despite him being a Bonanno, they may have just washed their hands of him once he was deported. In order for them to insert themselves and establish a puppet boss now, then do they not have to be the puppeteers for the Montreal organization now? They DONT have to do such a thing to be the most powerful crime group in CANADA. But to be such in MONTREAL, they do have to have some amount of control over the other Montreal crime groups, seeing as they wouldn't be the only Calabrian crime group in Montreal, nor the only one period.

Last edited by SinatraClub; 06/02/16 01:59 PM.