So are the Traitz no longer involved with the Roofers Union? You tell me Marine you sound pretty confident so you must have some sort of pulse... Also what about the Statens? I know Staten Sr (past away last week also) was caught by the FBI meeting with mob guys (Billy D'Elia) and Imam, who also has connections into Merlino, in or around 2004 at the Saloon where they were trying to maneuver for city demo contracts and actually setup a company to do so. No contracts were awarded to my knowledge. You guys are right I'm not saying there's anything like the Scarfo days, just interesting connections and relationships...