All due respect Turnbull, but what your really saying is that 4 permit holders murdered innocent people and thats relatively good? I say thats bullshit and unacceptable. What went wrong in each case? Is there a failing in the assesment process? Youre saying that carrying guns do cause murders, but because the murder level is relatively low, its worth it? Whats the benefit? You feel more of a man? I don't believe the boost to peoples self esteem carrying guns creates is worth innocent people dying.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murders-by-concealed-hand_b_632278.html