SoCal, it is significant though, Ive quoted the numbers before for accidental shootings.

As for maniacs on killing sprees...if these people can easily get hold of an arsenal of weapons, there's an issue with weapon control surely? It happens on a regular basis in the States so it does indicate control may well be an issue?

Im trying to think of another example or analogy-cigarettes (you might shoot me down ) are legal and the biggest legal killer. Surely if they were banned (its only an analogy!!) lung cancer rates would drop and generations would eventually be turned off. Same with guns... Make them illegal and, ok criminals will still have a reducing access to them, BUT youngsters wont view them as normal as any other item in a house. it'll not happen soon but surely we need to move away somehow from a society living in a paranoid fear that drives them to own a gun to defend themself?