Originally Posted By: slick
If you are talking about number of made men in the weakest New York family then your right. If you are talking about the actual power in the city they live in you are wrong. I don't see anyone in the upper echelon of the Outfit living in trailers and their wives on food stamps. Numbers don't always equal power. I don't underestimate New York like you do Chicago. New York has a huge numbers, and that helps with muscle but it also leads to more rats and longer sentences,and turnover in members. Is the Outfit huge, no not by any means, but its bigger than you are giving it credit for. Not to mention in Chicago almost anyone in politics is corruptible. That goes for a lot of police in the suburbs also.


They have no political influence anymore. Those days are long gone my friend. I do agree that numbers don't always matter, but when you are down to 25 made guys (many of them very old) then you can be pretty sure it's pretty much over. Times have truly changed. Chicago is on it's last leg.