Originally Posted By: pmac
I don't understand why people think Vito and massino wasn't on good terms untill George gets killed. He new Joe wasnt a joke he was with him when they slaughtered the 3 capos and got all there men to get inline. Vito new he had 100 + guys. Read some book were Vito was caught on a wire helping vinny ocean of the decav family smuggling Persian rugs into USA to get around some type of taxes. So he was probaly doing little deals with all the families. There's probaly alot of other relationships then just the bonanno family.



Don't know where you heard half of this, but it's not entirely accurate. No one ever said Rizzuto & Massino weren't on good terms. Like I said, prior to Sciascia being killed, Montreal was kicking up to NY, but it began to become less and less of a tribute. After Sciascia dies, the envelopes stop coming, period. Both Vitale & Massino testimony supports this fact as they both stated such. With Vitale going as far to say the last time he personally seen a kick up from Montreal was '98 or '99.


Vito Rizzuto never met Vinny Ocean, and Vito was never caught on a wire discussing him or any other Decavalcante Family member. And not ever about helping them. That also isn't true. What actually happened, was Sal Vitale brought that deal forward to Vito Rizzuto in one of his trips to Montreal in '92. Palermo knew that at that time, Bonanno still exerted control over Montreal. Because of this, he solicited Vitale's help, seeing as he was acting Bonanno underboss, in recruiting the Montreal guys in a scheme to import and export Persian rugs. US had an embargoe on Persian rugs, Canada didn't. All it simply was, using Vitale as a middleman, the DeCav's sent someone to NY, who was then sent to Montreal, to simply pick up the rugs, and bring them back. That was all. And Vito or any of the other members of his administration and close circle, ever personally transported the rugs themselves. Again, Vito Rizzuto and Vincent "Vinny Ocean" Palermo, never met.

And there isn't much to support the Rizzuto's dealing with any of the other families outside of the Bonanno's, the Gambino's, and very recently in a singular situation, the Lucchese's. Of course though, they loosely did business with all the families due to their position in the Pizza Connection.