I dont think the things I was talking about were irrelevant; You are citing stuff youve read, IM TALKING ABOUT A GUY I KNOW, AND THIS IS ONE GUY. Example, this guy one day comes into my work saying hey you want a bottle of Tequila? Im going to be importing it, its going to be top shelf in all the hottest bars in the City. Now he says this with complete confidence like he KNOWS it will be a success, I dont know if its clout with the bartenders union or what you understand? My point is you will NEVER HEAR ABOUT THIS GUY. HE HAS A COUSIN WHO WAS IN THE OUTLAWS,ON PAROLE, GETS DUIS, NOTHING HAPPENS; THE GUYS I MENTIONED, HAS HAD LIKE 2 OR 3 HUGE GROW OP BUST, GUN CHARGES, HE KINDA CRYPTICALLY SAID HE JUST MAKES A PAYOFF AND IT GOES AWAY. Again, this is just one guy I know, I dont know jack about the OUTFIT as we know it, but just off this one guy, its naive to treat chicago like its the sticks...