Serp you been around the older guys, but I never stood next to them so I can only go by what I heard from neighbors and whatnot. I'm around the same age as the other guys and I stood around with a few of them listening to them bullshit and get nasty with innocent people. One of my close friends really wanted to be around skinny and he would bring me around. This was on the 90s, after a few times in their company, it wasn't for me. But it was enough times to have my neighbor who was around the scarfo guys to say he told me so!! 20 years ago so these guys may have changed. Hahaha