Originally Posted By: StLguy
Originally Posted By: LuanKuci

to sum it all up: you had to rule chicago or nyc to rule american crime . . . iowa? not so much
germans got to that game too late to fully organize and become a lasting entity, especially in large, wealth-generating cities.


The Lebanese ('Syrians') were successful in St. Louis and were on an equal footing with the stl family here until it all blew up (literally) in the 1980s. I don't think that they had a presence in Chicago or NYC.

Also, the blacks have been here a long time and many of them are still active in gang activity/OC.

As far as germans go, I don't know about the states, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some type of german cybercrime rings. Many of them seem to be actively involved in hacking.


Germans who came here were mostly farmers. They settled in areas like rural Penn, Ohio, and Texas. Most of the OC is in cities. The Germans assimilated very easily into the Anglo-American majority population, so there was little opportunity to form an ethnic gang.