Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
You're born with a loyalty gene or you aren't. It can't be taught. It has to be instinctual. And most of these guys have it.

The overwhelming majority of wiseguys DON'T flip, even in a weakened 21st Century LCN. And the other thing is, you only read about the rats. You rarely read about a local soldier or even an occasional skipper when they take a plea of 7 to 10 and go away quietly. Not unless you're a local, like myself, Bronx and few other guys, or a mob groupie who reads every single press release (and I'm not mocking that, I've always commended our researchers here).

You either have it or you don't. You understand it or you don't.


<sigh> What's the point of a thread like this nowadays?

Sorry, Maybe I am just getting a tad frustrated over the sentiment i have been getting on this board as of late of the assumption most mob guys, or the majority of wiseguys, are rats. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

Now to your points PB....you are correct...you got it or you don't. And this just isn't for mob guys, it is in general.

Two your second point, this is something we have agreed on in the past and you know my feelings on it, so I don't need to expound further.