Explain how a guy like Joe Butch Corrao who was born in 1936 was a capo of a large crew by the 1970's? Was he made at 21 years of age or was he made in 1977 and immediately took over a powerful Manhattan crew when there were so many other capable guys?
How about Tommy Bilotti who was born in 1940? Was he made by 1957? If not, then he was made in 1977 and immediately became a trusted confidante of Castellano and underboss by 1985?
Joe Butch was made in the first ceremony for the Gambino's after the books re-opened in 76, he took over his father Vincent's crew not long after.
There's an article online, think it was early 60's (HairyKnuckles will know) where an informant said Joe Butch was close to being made before the commission closed the books.
Joe Butch is probably one of the more underrated powerhouses within the Gambino family throughout the 80's and 90's, very powerful.
As for Bilotti, now way he was made at 17, more likely made in 76/77
